Source: The Dollar is Rapidly Depreciating! Bitcoin Pioneer Jack Mallers: Currency Crises in Various Countries! 42,000 Bitcoin Aircraft Carrier!

Compiled & Translated by: Daisy, ChainCatcher

Editor's Note:

This article is compiled from a video interview between Jack Mallers and hosts David Lin and Bonnie Chang. Jack Mallers is the founder of the Bitcoin payment platform Strike and co-founder and CEO of investment firm 21 Capital, dedicated to promoting the practical application of Bitcoin in global payments and capital markets.

In the interview, Jack delves into the logical foundation of Bitcoin as a global store of value, analyzes new metrics such as "Bitcoin per Share (BPS)" and "Bitcoin Return Rate (BRR)," and points out the essential differences between 21 Capital and traditional ETFs. He also shares how Strike flexibly builds products based on local demand in different countries, as well as the political and macroeconomic background behind the institutionalization of Bitcoin.

The following content is a compilation and translation of the interview.

TL;DR:

1. The essence of currency is a tool for storing and exchanging labor, and Bitcoin is currently the optimal store of value.
2. Under pressure from debt and deficits, the value of Bitcoin as a scarce asset becomes increasingly prominent.
3. The dollar export model is collapsing, and Bitcoin's position in the global store of value system is becoming more pronounced.
4. Volatility is a prerequisite for obtaining returns.
5. Risk does not equal volatility; true risk is systemic failure.
6. 21 Capital introduces the "Bitcoin per Share (BPS)" and "Bitcoin Return Rate (BRR)" metrics to reconstruct the capital market evaluation system.
7. Unlike ETFs, 21 Capital enhances investors' Bitcoin exposure through operations rather than static holding.
8. Bitcoin rules are determined by global node consensus and cannot be altered by governments or institutions.
9. Bitcoin is not a political bet but a financial system built on mathematics and freedom.
10. The real risk is not volatility but systemic failure due to centralization and reliance on trusted counterparties.

The Value Logic of Bitcoin and the Global Currency Landscape

Bonnie: Do you think the continuous decline in the dollar's purchasing power and the passive weakening of the currency in the U.S. will naturally drive the world towards Bitcoin, or will it require significant events like financial crises or wars to facilitate this shift?

Jack: Currency, like other goods, competes in the free market with advantages and disadvantages. However, unlike consumer goods, the role of currency is to store and exchange people's time and labor. Even without a crisis, people will naturally choose the optimal store of value. Bitcoin has a significant advantage in this regard.

Bonnie: You mentioned that Bitcoin has a growth potential of 400 to 500 times; what is the basis for this estimate?

Jack: I am not predicting prices but analyzing the market size Bitcoin is facing. The total value of global assets is about $900 trillion, with roughly half used for storage of value. In other words, humanity is looking for tools to store $400 to $500 trillion in value. Bitcoin is currently the most promising store of value, being both a product of technological advancement and an innovation in value storage methods. In contrast, the global stock market is only about $150 trillion, and comparing Bitcoin to stocks or Ethereum severely underestimates its potential and positioning.

David: Bitcoin's price did not rise after Trump took office, which disappointed some investors. Were you surprised by this?

Jack: I was not surprised because the market's expectations were incorrect. They thought Trump's presidency would bring liquidity expansion, but the reality was tightening. To understand the current situation, we need to look back to the post-World War II era when the U.S. became the issuer of the global reserve currency based on its gold reserves, establishing a system of "printing paper for physical goods" through dollar exports and imports. This structure is now difficult to sustain. Trump's emphasis on manufacturing and fiscal balance is a response to debt and structural deficit issues. In this context, the value of Bitcoin as a scarce asset becomes increasingly prominent.

David: Some believe Bitcoin is highly correlated with the stock market, while others think its movements are more influenced by global M2 money supply. What is your view?

Jack: I tend to agree that Bitcoin is closely related to global M2. In the context of dollar depreciation, most asset prices rise, and the apparent correlation is actually driven by monetary policy. Bitcoin is a sensitive indicator of fiat currency liquidity; it combines technological attributes with the ability to counteract currency overproduction. For example, China's trade surplus funds flowing into U.S. stocks and real estate inflate asset prices, exacerbating bubbles and wealth gaps. Once this capital stops flowing into U.S. stocks, Bitcoin will decouple from stock market trends and demonstrate its independent value. It does not rely on profits or valuations but returns to real demand and scarcity.

**Bonnie: If Bitcoin becomes a mainstream store of value, how will it affect the valuation of human capital, stocks, and real estate?

**Jack: Bitcoin's proof-of-work mechanism makes it an "energy currency," which must be created through time and energy, possessing scarcity and anti-inflation capabilities. When people can save and plan for the future, society becomes more stable. The harder it is to produce currency, the more society can withstand uncertainty.

**Bonnie: You hold almost no dollars; how do you achieve this?

**Jack: I do not hold long-term depreciating assets; I only keep the best performers. I receive my salary in Bitcoin through Strike, take out loans, and pay bills, retaining assets while meeting liquidity needs. Such services are making Bitcoin more practical.

**David: Peter Schiff argues that Bitcoin has no intrinsic value and that its volatility equates to high risk. How do you respond to this viewpoint?

**Jack: Volatility is a prerequisite for obtaining returns. The Sharpe ratio measures the returns generated by volatility; if high volatility accompanies high returns, it is worth it. Risk does not equal volatility; true risk is systemic failure. Bitcoin operates based on mathematics and does not rely on counterparties, which essentially makes it lower risk.

**Bonnie: For ordinary people, managing Bitcoin is more challenging than a bank account. How do you address concerns about losing private keys or being hacked?

**Jack: The uniqueness of Bitcoin lies in the freedom of use. You can store your private keys yourself or choose custodial services.

While I encourage users to enhance their sense of sovereignty, the key is that it provides a choice. This ability to have complete control over assets is not available in other financial systems.

**David: Over the past decade, Bitcoin's Sharpe ratio has outperformed most assets. Why is institutional allocation still low?

**Jack: The process of institutional allocation to Bitcoin is slow, but the trend is upward.

People often overestimate short-term changes and underestimate long-term impacts. Although institutional structures are complex, I have seen a continuous increase in capital market demand for Bitcoin, and the allocation ratio will keep rising.

**Bonnie: You are developing Bitcoin-related products, right?

**Jack: Yes. Currently, there is a lack of Bitcoin representatives with institutional strength in the market, and we hope to enter with blue-chip qualifications and scale. We not only hold billions of dollars in Bitcoin but also have strong capital and Wall Street resources. More importantly, we focus on building products rather than merely hoarding coins. As participants in the Bitcoin protocol, we understand the technology and growth opportunities, aiming to build a bridge between technology and capital markets to promote the growth of "Bitcoin per Share."

21 Capital: Building the Growth Model of "Bitcoin per Share"

**Bonnie: What upcoming timelines or plans can you share?

**Jack: We are advancing the SPAC merger with Cantor Equity Partners, which is still under approval. The XXI stock is our first product, and my focus is on advancing the listing process and communicating our business philosophy and the value of Bitcoin to the public.

**David: Will large institutions holding significant amounts of Bitcoin threaten its decentralized spirit? What do you think?

**Jack: The design of Bitcoin determines that how much one holds does not affect control, which is different from proof-of-stake mechanisms. It is a permissionless system where anyone can participate freely, and specific holders cannot be excluded. Everyone is equal before the rules, which is the essence of Bitcoin.

**David: Are you planning to go public and list on an exchange?

**Jack: Yes, we have applied to merge with Cantor Equity Partners for a public listing, with the stock code XXI, and it is still under approval.

**David: As a Bitcoin-centric company, will you consider hedging against price volatility?

**Jack: We will not hedge Bitcoin assets. The company introduces "Bitcoin per Share (BPS)" and "Bitcoin Return Rate (BRR)" as new metrics, focusing on increasing the amount of Bitcoin represented by each share. We hold long-term and do not sell coins, aiming to create a growth-oriented capital market tool centered on Bitcoin.

Note:

• Bitcoin per Share (BPS): Refers to the amount of Bitcoin represented by each share of a company, used to measure shareholders' actual Bitcoin exposure, similar to earnings per share (EPS) in traditional finance but measured in Bitcoin.
• Bitcoin Return Rate (BRR): Refers to the growth rate measured in Bitcoin, used to assess a company's ability to enhance its Bitcoin assets through operations without selling Bitcoin.

**David: You mentioned the BRR concept; how does 21 differ from Bitcoin ETFs?

**Jack: Investing in 21 is investing in an actively managed company aimed at increasing Bitcoin per share. In contrast, ETFs like IBIT are static exposures where the amount of Bitcoin bought and held does not change. 21 continuously expands Bitcoin exposure through financing and business growth. We combine blue-chip qualifications with startup potential, aiming to allow shareholders to grow alongside Bitcoin.

**David: You are also the CEO of Strike; will there be any intersection between the two companies in the future?

**Jack: There is no intersection; Strike and 21 are completely independent. Strike is consumer-facing, providing services like loans, trading, and custody; 21 is capital market-focused, concentrating on Bitcoin investment tools, with different positioning and goals.

Strike's Product Strategy and Global Implementation

**Bonnie: How does Strike operate in countries with unstable currencies or weak banks?

**Jack: We customize products by region. In places like the U.S. and Europe, we support local fiat currencies and Bitcoin; in Latin America and Africa, due to unstable fiat, users prefer a USDT + Bitcoin combination. We are user-demand driven, doing whatever they ask for, which is key to our success.

David: Would you adjust your strategy in the face of a more favorable crypto regulatory environment?

Jack: A friendly regulatory environment is beneficial for entrepreneurship, and I am also glad to develop in the U.S. But Bitcoin does not rely on any political figures; it is a decentralized technology that transcends parties and political situations. What is truly valuable does not depend on who endorses it.

David: After regulatory relaxation, if banks offer crypto services, would you be worried about being replaced?

Jack: I am not worried. Traditional banks lack understanding of Bitcoin and the product capabilities, while we have them. The key is to focus on ourselves and do our best. I was also questioned five years ago, but we persevered. Even if one day Jamie Dimon (Chairman and CEO of JPMorgan Chase) becomes a Bitcoin banker, I would be happy to discuss it again.

Immutable Protocol: How Bitcoin Protects Itself

Bonnie: If the government or institutions hold a large amount of Bitcoin, is it possible for them to jointly modify the 21 million cap?

Jack: It is impossible. The rules of Bitcoin are determined by global operating nodes, and no one can unilaterally change them. Historically, those who attempted to modify it ended up forking, resulting in a significant loss of value. The neutrality and immutability of Bitcoin are its core. Once the rules change, it loses value. The incentive mechanisms also encourage participants to maintain the system rather than destroy it, making it nearly impossible to modify the total cap.

Bonnie: What changes have you experienced in your understanding of Bitcoin?

Jack: Initially, I viewed Bitcoin as a competitor to PayPal, but later I realized it is a core technology for storing time and energy. It made me rethink the meaning of currency and the value of hard money for social cooperation and long-term development, profoundly influencing my financial perspective and decision-making.

David: Do you still use Bitcoin to buy pizza?

Jack: No. I use a credit card for spending and then use Strike to collateralize Bitcoin for repayment, which allows me to retain Bitcoin while meeting daily expenses. Bitcoin is a savings tool; the dollar is for spending.

David: If I offered to buy you pizza with Bitcoin, would you accept?

Jack: No, I would not exchange quality currency for depreciating assets. Data shows that holding Bitcoin long-term can reduce living costs. In 2011, buying a house required 1.8 million Bitcoin, but now it only requires 4.7. The longer you hold Bitcoin, the more valuable it becomes, while the dollar shrinks the more you spend it. Therefore, I save Bitcoin and spend dollars.

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