This topic is quite good. Yesterday, I had dinner with several large miners (not $BTC), and later everyone got a bit drunk and started speaking the truth. The business logic of miners is annualized returns, but consensus is the main way to ensure those returns. Some projects are currently relying on miners to maintain a facade of activity, while in reality, both the applications and surrounding developments are a complete mess.

Without users, no one uses it, won't use it, and doesn't know what it can be used for—this is the biggest dilemma right now. The leading miners have started to organize their own investments and get involved in ecosystems, hoping to build consensus, while also criticizing the current foundations for taking money without doing anything.

However, miners are indeed a "vulnerable group" in certain respects. If there are issues with the project itself, the losses for miners are the greatest. Therefore, many miners, especially the leading ones, have started to collaborate, hoping to push the project's progress, which is quite difficult.

Of course, for the little guys, pumping the price is justice, but how many projects can continue to pump without sufficient consensus and application?

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